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担保条款只是说10年内不能申请SOCIAL WELFARE. 但OAS不属于SOCIAL WELFARE, 不受担保条款限制.

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  • 相约北美 / 探亲团聚 / 父母亲移民居住十年老人退休金OAS的若干问题
    有的人很不喜欢这问题,有人很喜欢.无论喜欢与否,请面对.这里的链接是关于退休金的,有兴趣的同学去研究,发表你的理解,不必要去道听途说.
    • 由于移民拖延的时间越来越久,很多人的父母亲在加拿大等待移民,于是就有同学问,在加拿大等待了三年,四年,这时间算不算,从下面的链接第二项的说法,看起来是算的.因为在加拿大居住10年并没有说要以移民的状态居住,大家再从别的地方找根据,不要道听途说不要人身攻击.
      2. Am I eligible?

      We look at three factors to determine if you can receive the Old Age Security pension: your age, your legal status, and the number of years you have lived in Canada.

      If one of the two scenarios listed below describes your situation, you may be eligible to receive the Old Age Security pension.
      Scenario 1 - People living in Canada

      You must be 65 years of age or older.
      You must live in Canada and be a Canadian citizen or a legal resident at the time we approve your pension application.
      You must have lived in Canada for at least 10 years after turning 18.

      Scenario 2 - People living outside Canada

      You must be 65 years of age or older.
      You must have been a Canadian citizen or a legal resident of Canada the day before you left Canada.
      You must have lived in Canada for at least 20 years after turning 18.
      • 第六项里,Category 2 -You reached the age of 25 on or before July 1, 1977, and at that time: 2.you did not live in Canada but you had some residence in Canada after the age of 18, 前面3条用or最后用and跟4连接,怎么理解?
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛6. How is my Old Age Security pension calculated?

        The Old Age Security pension is like a large "pie" that is divided into 40 equal portions. If you qualify for the "full pension," you are entitled to receive all 40 portions of the pie each month. If you qualify for a "partial pension", you will receive some, but not all, of the 40 portions each month. Whether you qualify for a full or partial pension will depend on how long you've lived in Canada after the age of 18. See below for more details.
        Full Pension

        Usually, if you meet all of the conditions outlined in one of the two categories below, you may qualify for a full pension:

        Category 1 -

        • You lived in Canada for at least 40 years after turning 18.

        Category 2 -

        You reached the age of 25 on or before July 1, 1977, and at that time:

        1. you lived in Canada, or;
        2.you did not live in Canada but you had some residence in Canada after the age of 18, or;
        3.you were in possession of a valid Canadian Immigration Visa; and
        4.you lived in Canada for the 10 years immediately before the approval of your OAS application.

        If you did not live in Canada continuously for the 10 years immediately before the approval of your application, you may still qualify for a full pension if you meet both conditions below:

        you lived in Canada for the entire year immediately before the approval of your application; and
        you lived in Canada (since age 18) for at least 3 years for every 1 year of absence from Canada during these last 10 years.

        Partial Pension

        If you don't qualify for the full Old Age Security pension, you may qualify for a partial pension.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 有人给社区老人做讲座,特别提到这个问题,你的推断是对的,由于申请移民时间漫长,在拿到移民身份前,只要每年住满半年就按照一年居住时间算,满十年并拿到身份后,可以拿到老年金。
    • 泼个冷水哈,刚收到service canada的回复说移民前的日子不算居住在canada.正在准备怎么appeal.
      • 是啊,You must have lived in Canada for at least 10 years after turning 18.这里并没说什么状态.比方说来了就没离开单次超过六个月,在这里报税了,这算不算呢?法律上怎么解释 lived in Canada.
      • 按照官网理解是应该算的, 支持appeal. 结果如何上来知会一下.
      • Technical if you are not PR/Citizen, you are visiting (ie. not residents). Just like I can choose to live in the US forever as a Canadian citizen, but I am not entitled to their retirement benefits.
        The resident guideline is more for regulating whether PR/Citizen should pay Canadian tax purpose. Just like if you are visiting (for a year), you would not required by the Candian law to file a tax return and report oversea incomes and pay Canadian taxes (some people might try to get around it by file a 0-income tax return to get refunds though, which I also don't agree). It's the same principle.
    • when apply for sponsorship, there is one condition that you need to support your parents for 10 years. That maybe the reason.
      • 从文字上看,担保协议上的条款跟拿养老金不矛盾,担保人给被担保人提供了所有的东西,并不能剥夺被担保人的养老金.因为养老金的发放也跟被担保没有联系,只跟居住年限10年,被批准的时候合法在加拿大有关.
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          • 担保条款只是说10年内不能申请SOCIAL WELFARE. 但OAS不属于SOCIAL WELFARE, 不受担保条款限制.
    • 我们要游行,废除所有老人退休金.既然你们(dululu,tracyd等)可以游行要求把正在申请和将要申请担保的人延迟了这么久,我们也可以游行要求废除团聚移民的不合理福利.以此增加团聚数量.
      • I believe that stopping OAS is the voice of the majority of Chinese community.
      • Good idea. I guess Jason Kenney would love to hear that.
      • 你 们 啥时候游行上来通知一声, 关注你们的行动
      • 呵呵,有没有老人退休金什么的,和我们的父母根本没有任何关系了,我们的父母都已经70多岁了,还在担保路上耗着,这都是那个“公平”组织以及保守党的功劳。
        目前的媒体舆论也偏向于反对移民特别是老年人,但是偏向于团聚移民的肯定也不会是占少数,只是这部分人没有能在媒体舆论上去主导。

        我个人估计后面的某个日子,当人们被这个保守党弄得实在忍无可忍的时候,肯定会有新情况发生。
      • 增加团聚的数量?父母都来了,跟儿女住了10年,要自己独立生活了,不给OAS,父母那个时候都年迈了,如何快乐健康的生活?现在全世界生活成本这么高,就怕那个时候子女也能力有限。我认为社会应该有一定的责任赡养老人!
        • 哪个社会?中国社会吧?在哪里交的税?再说移民来了中国还在给他们发养老金吧?
          • OAS只是社会福利一部分,但还有health care呢。那干脆像澳洲算了,你自己带着钱去移民。
      • 尽管我是双方父母都要移民来这里,可是我还是支持你,定好时间地点,我跟上次游行一样,带领我家里的所有人口来支持你.
      • 我也不需要政府给养老金我父母。有我一口就有他们的一顿;有我穿的,就绝对不会让他们寒碜。如果医疗费用能够reasonable一点,或是政府能另开一个reasonable一点的保险给他们,我也愿意努力把保费给付上。
        我不一定了解得很全,听说美国就是每个月付一定保费给政府,然后就全包,还是怎地。。。。
        • 你自己想想如果你父母能够自己拿到一些钱,这和你从口袋里给他们的钱,他们的想法是不是会一样?他们来十年,你已经付出了,为什么不能让他们享受原本就应得的福利呢?你个人的经济压力小一些,可以更多的付出在自己和孩子身上,有什么不好的呢?
          • 你付出难道你老了政府不用养你?
      • 要不怎么说中国社团不团结呢,就是你们这些小人在做怪,自己得不到,也不想别人得到,小人!